And so is dickheaddery.
This rant is brought to you by a very happy post by Tam of Rightious orbs. In a very happy post, he talks about finding the right guild for him (or so it seems, dum dum DUUUUUUM - he is very aware that he has said this before).
Anyway apart from making the best ever analogy over what raiding is, he in a bynote talks about two types of players.
Person A: I want to raid, therefore I will put with a degree of shit.(himself being person B).
Person B: I would rather not raid than put up with a degree of shit.
I myself - and this should not come as a shock, is very much a person A.
I have, and I will put up with sh*t to raid. Because, unlike one of his commenters, I know myself and the world around me, well enough to realise that in any team sport, there will be people you have a lot in common with, and some who does weird things, that you do not consider being "super kewl".
For example, I tend to overfocus on one aspect on any given encounter, and mess something up. That is not a great quality in a tank. One of our dps likes to sleep in, that is not a very good quality when you raid in the weekend mornings.
And one of our healers does like to... Well I've got no idea what she does tbh. She does like to get summoned, thats for sure. I remember one time, when she, didn't come back after a raidbreak (lunch). and we found out the next day that she had decided to take 5 mins of nap-time on the couch and had fallen asleep.
I know this is in the tiny-non-existent-part of complaining. But when you are pumped up about a new boss, this can really be annoying. Or when one of our trials hunters didn't turn up for a raid AND STILL HAS NOT SAID ANY FUCKING THING ABOUT WHY NOT - you do feel like this person is shitting all over the rest of your raidgroup.
But you deal with it. You get over peoples little quirks and move on. This is some little innocent things that some would consider shit you deal with in order to raid.
If someone in guild-chat had made some inappropriate comments about his girlfriend. I would tell him off, but I wouldn't leave guild. If someone made an gay joke, I would report him, and tell him i've done so (I did that once). But I wouldn't leave my guild over it. Or make an issue over it demanding him kicked or I would go.
The two day ban, was punishment enough, at least in my book, and he never did make another joke like that.
The point is, when you have a large group of people connected by a similar goal of wanting to raid in a certain pase (and not even that common a goal, some just do it for the social parts, some for gear, some for progression, and some for something to do with their evenings), you have to expect that people will not be able to be bf4evar!! -till the end of the universe.
It just is not how people work. Healers will have their own sub-group where they discuss stuff. So will tanks. So will -some- ranged, and so will the dutch people (or in Ensidias case their infamous "danish mafia").
You do not have to loooooove every single person you raid with, but liking them all sure does help.
At the moment, I do not have anyone in my guild that is /sigh at when I see them online. That, for me, equals happy times.
I mean, in any group of people thrown together by semi-accident, you will find someone you do not click with. School class, sport club, the stamp-collectors union, your workplace. If you expect to go through life only dealing with people you love all the time, anytime. You are going to find yourself pretty lonely sooner or later. That is just how people work. Or rather, unless you live in "the great order of the amazing moongoddess Phils movementarians group". THEN you will love everyone, all the time.
What I'm getting at, is that just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so is Dickeadery. What you might consider being unacceptable behavior in a guild-setting, i'll bet you that many others will consider cool. Spending all day in /g telling "yo mama" jokes? I'd leave, but I'm pretty sure plenty would
find that to be a guild where "we have lots of fun in an relaxed atmosphere". So unnammed commenter on Tams blog: you are either dumb or very naive, when you claim that is it the person A, that is the problem.
If we all had the "person B" personality and would kick every single dickhead in guild. We would run out of guild members. Because we are all different and unique snowflakes (we *are*), we will not always agree on what is fun and great behaviour. So deal with Dickhead behaviour in your guild. Let them bow off steam. And if the generel vibe of the guild and most people there are cool, behold: you will be very happy in your guild.
Because small or big, we do have to deal with degrees of shit in order to be in a team, doing team-stuff. Deal with it.
And no, you do not have to deal with any more or any less sh*t the higher up the progression ladder you are. There are cool guilds and there are complete sh*t guilds at all levels of this game. Some guilds the atmosphere is to beat on your fellow guildie in order to build yourself up.
- For example if you build a guild around pvp, where you gank low levels of the opposite faction. And THEN after having your guildies beat you up when you log into your scam horde auctioneer alt, only to belittle said guildies (that only did what they where told), on your blog. - That would be an unpleasent atmosphere, and the tell tell signs of a sucky guild with a horrible guild leader.